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One possibility show in above is that it came from the name ‘Penketh’ which means ‘Edge of the forest’, the area was at the edge of the Royal hunting grounds of Toxteth Park – a forest until the late 16th century. The emphasis is mine: https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/stories/pennys-lane. Especially as it’s been repeated by (and probably originated from) the Maritime/International Slavery Museum which you’d think was a credible source. Instead it gives more credence to the claim that it was named in relation to the Welsh word ‘Pen’ – linking it to the nearby Penketh fields and the farm next to Penny Lane called Pen y Bryn. Mike’s findings also provides more evidence that the name Penny derives from a link to the Welsh word ‘Pen’ meaning ‘top’, ‘head’ or ‘Edge’. . The post below is long, it needed to be to research a claim that had been taken as fact across the world. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-mayor-joe-anderson-responds-18391938. If the lane was named after him it would have certainly been mentioned here. Cheers! From the baptism record we can see that she was born into the Halewood Poorhouse and was a bastard child of John Penny and therefor nothing to do with the family of James Penny: Esther Halewood would go on to marry Thomas Travise on 09 Feb 1759 in Childwall. How about Oliver Cromwell? I have tried to find evidence online of a potential connection with Emsworth, Hampshire, and James Penny, and nothing has turned up. In fact the only property on Penny Lane for many years was in the Wavertree half of the lane and not Toxteth Park at all. Portrait of James Penny by Thomas Hargreaves. That’s the problem with landing on a page via a Google search, you may miss the most important bit because you’re looking for something specific, in that case the silver epergne photo, it’s been bugging me where the myth originated, I’ll edit the post straight away and credit yourself for finding it -thanks! As we have seen Penny Lane was bordered on the north by a range of fields called Penkeths (and a house called Penketh Hall) and also by a farm on the south called Pen y Bryn. That Liverpool owed much of its growth and wealth to the slave trade is not in question, neither is the fact that many merchants built their villas and warehouses with money earned by slavery linked ventures. Image: Liverpool Fragments‏, The location of Penny’s house today is right in the middle of M&S, indicated by the orange tone. An ex-employee of the museum had claimed publicly that he started Penny Lane’s ‘probable’ association to the Slave trade, and since admitted he didn’t research it prior, this announcement by the museum will hopefully end the debate about Penny Lane once and for all. A story that proved so popular with the international press that it has been repeated ever since. Great stuff. Penny Lane was not named after the Slave merchant James Penny. You can read full Maritime Museum blog post here: blog.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/2008/08/pennys-lane/, On the 10th January 2020, ITV ran a story about Liverpool Council’s plans to erect signs in Liverpool streets that bear the names of slave merchants and abolitionists:-. It’s also important to note that the respected Liverpool historian, Steve Horton, in his 2002 book ‘Street Names of Liverpool’, does not include the link to James Penny with the lane. James Penny came to Liverpool sometime around 1764 and in 1768 he married Ann Cooper in St. Nicholas Church in the Old Churchyard. I have just produced a book on the origins of street names in Liverpool, named “Streets Ahead” and which, despite research, I too have cited the Penny Lane derived from James Penny. The James Penny link was made to journalists in response to a proposal to rename streets that were ‘named after’ Slave merchants back in 2006. Hi Glen, What first went through my head was “how many Penny Lanes are there in the UK?” I immediately Googled that question, and found the following: Penny Lane, Emsworth, Hampshire, PO10 8HE. Maps.nls.uk. The speech reflects the outrage of people coming to terms with an inhuman trade earlier generations had profited from. He gave the chair in recognition of the post-abolition palm oil trade with Africa. Will we destroy monuments to the industrial revolution? The lozenge feature, next to plot 144 is a pond and is remarkably still there. I will have a look and get back to you. His taste in music and art was distinctly conservative reflecting, possibly, his provincial life, but this may have encouraged his adherence to advanced classicism. The grocer’s apostrophe is still with us, but it actually goes further back than the possessive apostrophe: the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language (p.215) notes that it was “often used before a plural ending”, and that there was uncertainty about its use “until the middle of the 19th century”. A snippet of a plan that has never been seen published before. And that on the basis that it seemed ‘too much of a coincidence’: perhaps if you have a hammer everything looks like a nail, but the Museum’s response that ‘the staff member no longer works here’ was a bit concerning. Change ), The Penny Lane slavery debate has been a distraction to the real issues raised by the Black Lives Matter protests and to the good work done by the museum. I have also forwarded it to the museum: Street signs defaced on Penny Lane due to its supposed links to James Penny, a slave merchant.

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